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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: up the middle on April 14, 2008, 08:54:49 PM
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Just curious on your thoughts on dropping the 6D at the bigger shows. It would mean more money going to the other D's which is a plus for everyone.
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Take it out, way OUT!
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Keep it!!!!!
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I started rodeoing again because the 4D was fine then came the 5D and now the 6D............Not enough money I agree.........................It's cheaper for me to go to the corner store and buy a lottery ticket....................... <DUMMY ME> <DUMMY ME>
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TAKE IT OUT!! I think 5D is stupid as well. 4D is at least a lot more reasonable. 6D is flat out outrageous..you can just grab anything out of the pasture and go run and still have a chance at a check. whats the fun in that?
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Very well said SpecialK 8) 8)
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Flame me if you wish, but, the point of 6D is to give everyone a chance to run. I do love the 5D right now cause that full second split to the 4D is too much. I prefer the half second splits. But, now that there are 6D's with the added money shows, it sure does bring a crowd and allows even the little ones to get out there and have a shot. Then, you also have the gals with the horses in training that will have a chance to be seasoned and still a chance at the checks! So, even though I had a BAD weekend, I was still looking at Destrys cause it was a 6D. Same with WBR. Now, smaller jackpots, 5D is fine and so is 4D cause you have to have money for the pot!!!!! I think that the last hole in each D should be able to cover your entry! <EXCUSE ME?>
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I agree with GB if its got some added money why not spread the wealth but IF its a smaller pot a 5D would be good!!
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Flame me if you wish, but, the point of 6D is to give everyone a chance to run. I do love the 5D right now cause that full second split to the 4D is too much. I prefer the half second splits. But, now that there are 6D's with the added money shows, it sure does bring a crowd and allows even the little ones to get out there and have a shot. Then, you also have the gals with the horses in training that will have a chance to be seasoned and still a chance at the checks! So, even though I had a BAD weekend, I was still looking at Destrys cause it was a 6D. Same with WBR. Now, smaller jackpots, 5D is fine and so is 4D cause you have to have money for the pot!!!!! I think that the last hole in each D should be able to cover your entry! <EXCUSE ME?>
No flames here. Everyone is entitled to their remarks. (as long as they are nice ones!) I agree that the last hole should cover your entry. I like having lots of payout slots but not if its not enough to pay your EF money back. I wish NBHA would go to 1/2 splits all around. I think the whole margin is too wide a span since thats where a lot of people fall. I don't think the big shows would be hurt by dropping the 6D. I think it would encourage those who fall in that D to maybe ride up. Plus, I feel a lot of people that fall in them have bad runs and just happen to luck out. I kinda wish the smaller JP's would stick to the 4D's with 1/2 sec splits. Seems like the money is getting TOO spread out. But that's JMO.
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First I think it should depend on the amount of entries....secondly....a 6D is only 2.5 seconds off the fasted time with 1/2 sec. splits. A 4D with 1/2 1/2 whole is 2 seconds off....so a 6D is actually only adding a 1/2 second.....BUT if it's a 4D with all 1/2 seconds then that is only 1.5 seconds off.....if you look at the results of most all barrel races.....that 1.5 sec to 2 seconds off is where the majority of your barrel racers fall and without THEIR entry FEES to contribute, you guys in the 1 & 2 D's would not have the payouts you have.....rememer 75-80% of THEIR entry fees go in the pot......and yet those D's get the most payout....and don't bash...I'm not saying that's wrong.....but those additional D's do give your young or less seasoned horses a chance....and their trainers and owners a chance to get them out there to season them and maybe get a little payout to boot....
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(hi there)well I like the 6D 1/2 SEC. splits IT does give a place to run the young ones and have a chance to pick up a nice ck. IT takes the same amount of fuel to haul 1;2; or 3. the pay out would be a little bigger if they paid fewer slots. look at the difference in the pay out at the 2 bigger shows this weekend.
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TAKE IT OUT!! I think 5D is stupid as well. 4D is at least a lot more reasonable. 6D is flat out outrageous..you can just grab anything out of the pasture and go run and still have a chance at a check. whats the fun in that?
Ditto.
Even if I take something young, by the time i'm hauling them somewhere they should be able to cruise a 3-d/4-d time If not...they don't go.
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Flame me if you wish, but, the point of 6D is to give everyone a chance to run. I do love the 5D right now cause that full second split to the 4D is too much. I prefer the half second splits. But, now that there are 6D's with the added money shows, it sure does bring a crowd and allows even the little ones to get out there and have a shot. Then, you also have the gals with the horses in training that will have a chance to be seasoned and still a chance at the checks! So, even though I had a BAD weekend, I was still looking at Destrys cause it was a 6D. Same with WBR. Now, smaller jackpots, 5D is fine and so is 4D cause you have to have money for the pot!!!!! I think that the last hole in each D should be able to cover your entry! <EXCUSE ME?>
I agree....
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About this pass weekend to make your fee back you had to be in the top 10 and that not even with your fuel and I did not go if it was $55 or 60 and a free run then maybe
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Keep it, keeps the entries up.
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If you go back and look at the results of WBR Conroe in Feb29-Mar2 you will see that there are 146 riders in the 2D, 159 riders in the 3D, 144 riders in the 4D. BUT in the 5D there were only 72 and in the 6D there were only 85 so if you add these 2 classes together you get about how many were in each of the other D's (excluding the 1D of course). So what it boils down to is that the 5D and the 6D have twice as good a chance to win money as the ones running in the faster D's. No I don't think we should have a 6D. 5D with 1/2 second splits is great for the big shows. 4D is enough for local jackpots in my opinion. Making the big jackpots 6D was a advertising gimmick to get anyone to enter. Let's face it, if you've got the money you can enter anything anywhere. Doesn't mean they are ready for it. Dang how do you afford to season a young horse if you pay over $100 entry fee? No wonder barrel horses are so much. LOL
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i agree with hardtimes, it keeps the entries up!!!! Take it away and possibly more money may go to the pot..but if u dont have those extra entries then maybe less goes to the pot.. :(((( who cares? back to my same old theory...if ya dont like the show, the producer, the format, the payout, the ground, the location, the tractor driver, the way the bathrooms are set up.. :cheeze: whatever..just dont go!! oh...but back to the original vote..i voted to keep it (woohoo)
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TAKE IT OUT!! I think 5D is stupid as well. 4D is at least a lot more reasonable. 6D is flat out outrageous..you can just grab anything out of the pasture and go run and still have a chance at a check. whats the fun in that?
Ditto! I hate anything more than a 4D. Even at a little jackpot a 5D is too much.
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i agree with hardtimes, it keeps the entries up!!!! Take it away and possibly more money may go to the pot..but if u dont have those extra entries then maybe less goes to the pot.. :(((( who cares? back to my same old theory...if ya dont like the show, the producer, the format, the payout, the ground, the location, the tractor driver, the way the bathrooms are set up.. :cheeze: whatever..just dont go!! oh...but back to the original vote..i voted to keep it (woohoo)
<ROCKON> very well said,always my theory <ROCKON>
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First I think it should depend on the amount of entries....secondly....a 6D is only 2.5 seconds off the fasted time with 1/2 sec. splits. A 4D with 1/2 1/2 whole is 2 seconds off....so a 6D is actually only adding a 1/2 second.....BUT if it's a 4D with all 1/2 seconds then that is only 1.5 seconds off.....if you look at the results of most all barrel races.....that 1.5 sec to 2 seconds off is where the majority of your barrel racers fall and without THEIR entry FEES to contribute, you guys in the 1 & 2 D's would not have the payouts you have.....rememer 75-80% of THEIR entry fees go in the pot......and yet those D's get the most payout....and don't bash...I'm not saying that's wrong.....but those additional D's do give your young or less seasoned horses a chance....and their trainers and owners a chance to get them out there to season them and maybe get a little payout to boot....
Well said.
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Its a good thing that there is different assocations or barrel races that people can pick and choose where they want to go. If you dont like the way it is then dont enter. 3d,4d,5d,6d,7d,8d-- its pot luck if you win any money anyway!
If you have that 1-d; rodeo horse-then go to rodeos....
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Went to Destry's 6D this past weekend, and what I noticed is the increased number of novice, 5D plus riders. One lady, was very please she ran a 20+ time, had the enthusiasm, energy most of us had when we first started.
She would not go to a 4D/5D race more than likey, but the 6D brought her out.
The increased number of us slow riders funds you 1/2/3D folks, and it benefits folks like the excited 6D rider who just wants to compete and have a great time, and it benefits you fast folks with more money, a win win in my book.
jmho
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I like the 6D races. I know it seems like a little much to pay out that many. I am with Deb it really pulls in more entries and lets everyone that doesn't have that 1D or Rodeo horse have a great time at these big barrel races.
The pattern at Destry's was really big and usually my horse falls in the 3D or 4D and he lost some of his steam this weekend with that big pattern and landed me in the top of the 6D all weekend. Of course I ended up being bumped out, but I had a great time this weekend and met some really nice people. :)/\\
I like the 6D Races it give everyone a chance at some big money. <ROCKON>
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back to my same old theory...if ya dont like the show, the producer, the format, the payout, the ground, the location, the tractor driver, the way the bathrooms are set up.. :cheeze: whatever..just dont go!! oh...but back to the original vote..i voted to keep it (woohoo)
Amen
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
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I hear ya Tamet. >PEACE<
Bobby I think she did!!! <COLOR GRIN>
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
Bobby are you coming on here to start trouble again? :ROFL2:
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If you go back and look at the results of WBR Conroe in Feb29-Mar2 you will see that there are 146 riders in the 2D, 159 riders in the 3D, 144 riders in the 4D. BUT in the 5D there were only 72 and in the 6D there were only 85 so if you add these 2 classes together you get about how many were in each of the other D's (excluding the 1D of course). So what it boils down to is that the 5D and the 6D have twice as good a chance to win money as the ones running in the faster D's. No I don't think we should have a 6D. 5D with 1/2 second splits is great for the big shows. 4D is enough for local jackpots in my opinion. Making the big jackpots 6D was a advertising gimmick to get anyone to enter. Let's face it, if you've got the money you can enter anything anywhere. Doesn't mean they are ready for it. Dang how do you afford to season a young horse if you pay over $100 entry fee? No wonder barrel horses are so much.
Your talking about riders... If you'll notice the 1-D usally has less rides than the 2-3 or 4 D's. I vote to leave the 5&6 D's. I've rode all my life, done playdays, local 4-D and our small home town Rodeo, I consider myself a (3-D/4-D) local compeditor, I have placed in the open 2-D's a very few times, But there is NO WAY i would travel 3 to 6 hours & pay 100 to 200 entry fee, stalls, hook ups etc... if it wasn't a 5 or 6 D... Those big show have the Pro riders and Pro horses running. And I know I can't compete against them, but I can compete with them....... >PEACE<
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
Bobby are you coming on here to start trouble again? :ROFL2:
Tamet I dont like the colors on your web pages. I am going start a poll to get them changed. <()>
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If the 6D's were dropped she would still win money! She's in it everywhere! haha (her and Debhorses) They are 2 lucky gals! Of course having 2-3 horses helps your chances too.
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I hear you too Red River. I can't compete with them either and I don't have the money for that 1D horse. I do like Competeing with them too. :)/\\
Now Now Bobby be nice. LOL
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Went to Destry's 6D this past weekend, and what I noticed is the increased number of novice, 5D plus riders. One lady, was very please she ran a 20+ time, had the enthusiasm, energy most of us had when we first started.
She would not go to a 4D/5D race more than likey, but the 6D brought her out.
The increased number of us slow riders funds you 1/2/3D folks, and it benefits folks like the excited 6D rider who just wants to compete and have a great time, and it benefits you fast folks with more money, a win win in my book.
jmho
You take away the 5D and 6D in the big shows, you take away the trucks, saddles, and buckles, not to mention the money <psssttt> .......besides I bet a 1D horse/rider that slips behind a barrel and wins a spot in the 5/6D won't be complaining much about the D's when they win a check <EXCUSE ME?> . Those people fuel these races and without them the faster gals would be complaining because they aren't winning enough money.
Can't make everyone happy, but the producers sure try!!! :*
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Please no flames just an opinion. I think it depends on number of entries so you can keep the money good. Never a 5D or 6D with equal payout cause that really kills the 1D payout. If you win over 600 horses you deserve more money than the other D's.
And not all 1D horses can rodeo Deb. Its takes a fortune to go on the road and a lot of wear and tear on your horse not to mention Mike can't qualify to ride in Rodeos and if just Jaci rides they only have 1/2 chance to win money. Some horses cannot handle the stress and the arenas. With diesel, food, lodging, and everything so high its becoming a rich girls game.
Please do not flame the 1D as they do set the pace for the other divisions.
Everyone deserves a chance to run and make some money. Another idea is not many 3-6D riders depend on the money they make for a living as a lot of the 1-2D runners do.
Everyone should be able to go to barrel races and have fun and hope to fall in the situation of winning money. If you are happy in your situation stay there and have a blast. If you are not, ride up, go to clinics, change feed, loose weight, do what ever it takes to get in the spot you want to be. Barrel racers are all very good people and I wish the best for everyone
Good Luck where ever you go!
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I don't have a problem with the "continued" addition of D's and much as the equal payout.
The faster horses should win the most money.
And let's all face it, we are doing this for "entertainment".
Those who actually "make money barrel racing" are the ones hauling to professional rodeos. When you consider all expenses usually by the end of the year, not many have made a "living" barrel racing, (of course there are those who rodeo professionally that are the exception).
BUT..........6D should be as far as D's should go, in my opinion, but opinions are like noses, everyone has one......
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I'm going to be stubborn and not vote at all, because we have this very same conversation in one form or another at least once a month and it's really getting old.
There are enough races in this state big and small so that if you don't like the way one is formated you can choose another.
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
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I have been in the 5/6D plenty of times! Why would you even want to go to the barrel race, pay $100 + in fees, fuel, stalls.... If you know you are going to be that far off? 2.5 to 3+ seconds....The 5/6D ers pay the fees, but if they (5/6D) weren't there, then there would be more money in the other D's, however maybe less entries... I guess it is all about getting the numbers! I wonder when it will stop? Are we eventually going to have 7/8/9D's?? Will we ever have handicapping? what about "numbers" like the ream ropers....?
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
HAHHAhhahaha too funny!!
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
You'll have to invest in some industrial scales!!!!!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
I think you just don't want to take it on because in this case everyone would be putting on extra clothes to make the weight instead of taking them off. :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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This is just too funny. :ROFL2:\
Bobby there is no way I am letting you get my weight in May. :ROFL2:
You might loose some money if you started that. <COLOR GRIN>
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
OK..maybe I should start a new poll on how many of us chunky monkeys would like a handicap at barrel races? Add a few pounds to those skinny gals and kids so we can all weigh the same. Its not fair! (j/k of course)
I guess I dont look at other barrel racing boards I haven't seen this post asking abut 6 D's before. I was just curious to see how other people feel. Obvioulsy most people don't mind having 6Ds. I'm one of the ones that don't go if I don't like the way things are. No one is twisting my arm to enter. Especially since gas is so high now.
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Those who fall that far behind pay those fees to have a good time.....thats what the big races are all about, having a good time, with good people, and hopefully a story or two....if you can remember <BUDS> <BUDS>
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That's strange, I always heard that if you could remember, you weren't having a good enough time. :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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I think it depends on the size of the race.
With Booger's races the size they are with the LARGE amounts guaranteed, I don't mind it being a 6D. I have yet to see a producer able to do as good of a job with that size of a race and no one comes close to his payouts.
I would say everyone else needs to be 5D at the largest.
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That's strange, I always heard that if you could remember, you weren't having a good enough time. :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
I guess that's why I always draw a blank!!! :cheeze: :cheeze:
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
Just how many women do you know would be willing to stand up on a public scale?!?!?!?! NONE!!!!!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
Best one I have heard yet!!!!!!
And, by the way, I was wondering if'n Tam'et could change the colors up a little. Maybe lighten things up!!!!
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
THat woman needs to be hung from the stupid tree!! I would get on the scales in a heart beat!
I can go find alot of rocks to put in my pants and go get a big bra and fill it with something!!
Leave us little girls alone! <()> <()>
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I agree with Gabe's Babe!!!!
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I think it is the producer's choice. My opinion, 1D and 2D'ers don't like it, but everyone with green horses will like it. I don't care either way. However, I will not go to a 4D with 1/2 second splits, I just don't like it.
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Lilbit.....any bigger bra and you won't be standing upright!!! >THUD<
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hey i will do anything so that they would not add time to mine!
I think Bobby or Johnny would help me get on the scales if that was the issue! :ROFL2:
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Flash!
Booger Barter, Destry and D&G and any other associactions!
New format suggestion!Barrel RACES shall be called "Barrel Gatherings) It is no longer an actual RACE.
10D Format
Equal Payout
Criteria on Entry Form:
Weight---Add 1/10th for each lb. over 150 pounds
Age -----Deduct 1/10th for each year of your age over 18 (this also makes youth not elegable for the Open)
Green Horse or Rider ---Deduct 1/10th of your experience from the most experienced rider at the "Gathering"
Horse Messed up Pattern ---Get a "Do Over"
Rider Messed up Pattern ----Get a "Do Over and a Donut"
Equipment Failure -----------Get your fees back to purchase new equipment
Knocked over Barrel----------Do not receive a No Time, Write an apology to barrel setter
Just didn't place ------------Get a hug from producer of "Gathering"
This is my suggestion for "Barrel Gatherings"
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I like the donut part! rofl
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Is that really Thamesranch our a member of her family?? THat is funny!
I think they need to deducted time if your under 5ft and over the age of 18!
Equipment failure- June Wheeler would love that one! :ROFL2: rofl
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:()& to Thames!!!
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Is that really Thamesranch our a member of her family?? THat is funny!
I think they need to deducted time if your under 5ft and over the age of 18!
Equipment failure- June Wheeler would love that one! :ROFL2: rofl
Hmmmmm, I didn't think of the height. But there may be a suggestion to measure if you reach a certain height (like at the amusement parks) which determines if you are tall enough for the ride. Lilbit you may be screwed............ :ROFL2: I guess there could be a midget D.
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I like the 5D/6D formats - it adds $$ to the pot and lets us Mom's ride too when we are hauling the skinny-minnie's around... and actually have a shot sometimes.
I do think they all need to be a sliding scale though - if you are competing at the 1D level - you should be riding for the larger pots. The other winners are a gamble based on the fastest horse there.
JMO
Wendy
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So true it's all a gamble after the 1D riders. <COLOR GRIN>
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Thamesranch emails me everyday wanting an EQUAL PAYOUT . <()> <()>
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I can probably say that it ain't Thamesranch wanting equal pay out!
A midget D that is funny! The only problem is I don't want to ride with those little kids on really nice horses...
I can only handle the horse that is out in front of the grocery store that you can put a quarter in.LOL
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Rodeomom...ok i am know i am one of the fattest chicks out there running barrels and yes i am trying to lose weight as we speak..just got in from the gym!! I got some extra Bras and i bet we can find a wig and put it on Mikey and call him Melinda Berberer and see what happens..hehehe :TIGGER: and i think it was someone else that talked something about rodeo...i didnt mention rodeo in my post on the 2nd page.
i always TRY and make the best run i can...its a proven fact my horses have run in the 2D's with other riders..look up stats from the years before i bought them.. Jewel ran in the 2D forever in Lousiana with Shannon Daves.. Joker ran in the 2D with Shauna Pollin at Gulf Coast and also another rider, i forget her name..i know that i am the hinderence to my horses..but they sure do love me at feeding time!!! roflmao
and as far as what it costs to go down the road?? TELL ME!! i travel every single weekend..Oklahoma, Lousiana, GEORGIA!!!! go just as far as the 1D horses go to jack pots..i pay the same fees that the 1D riders pay, THE DIESEL PUMP DOES NOT CARE IF I HAVE A 1D HORSE OR A 10D DONKEE THAT I'M HAULING!!! roflmao it costs me just as much to feed and take care of my horses as the 1D horses.. oh wait!!! :(((( so whos bitchin about this all?? and i'm going to the jackpot whether its equal pay out or not.. and i'm not one to sit up all nite and calculate with my calculator how much of my fees goes to the pot and how much added money comes from us paying a processing fee, and i'm not gonna figure the sliding pay out..i DONT CARE!! i go for the fun of it all!! for the ride and for the people!!! ....the vote was simple to remove the 6d... hey ask the producers!!! its their decisions anyway!!!
and d@#%it its hard to lose weight when THAMES TALKS ABOUT DO-NUTS!!!
and ............nevermind...it has to do with BOOGER AND A SET OF SCALES.... roflmao
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BOOGER!!!!! <HI> go ahead and tell us all about what else THAMES emails you... roflmao :TIGGER: rofl (woohoo)
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debhorses- your doing awesome and you can tell it!!
Lov ya!
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I can probably say that it ain't Thamesranch wanting equal pay out!
A midget D that is funny! The only problem is I don't want to ride with those little kids on really nice horses...
I can only handle the horse that is out in front of the grocery store that you can put a quarter in.LOL
Then it probably needs to be qualified as the D for midgets with big boobs. :ROFL2:
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Went to Destry's 6D this past weekend, and what I noticed is the increased number of novice, 5D plus riders. One lady, was very please she ran a 20+ time, had the enthusiasm, energy most of us had when we first started.
She would not go to a 4D/5D race more than likey, but the 6D brought her out.
The increased number of us slow riders funds you 1/2/3D folks, and it benefits folks like the excited 6D rider who just wants to compete and have a great time, and it benefits you fast folks with more money, a win win in my book.
jmho
You take away the 5D and 6D in the big shows, you take away the trucks, saddles, and buckles, not to mention the money <psssttt> .......besides I bet a 1D horse/rider that slips behind a barrel and wins a spot in the 5/6D won't be complaining much about the D's when they win a check <EXCUSE ME?> . Those people fuel these races and without them the faster gals would be complaining because they aren't winning enough money.
Can't make everyone happy, but the producers sure try!!! :*
Sorry KerrieL, but if my 1D horse slips she better not be in the 5-6D is she's truly a 1D horse. Slip and pull up and maybe you'll be in the 5-6D. And a 1D person will accept the check from the other Ds, but will still complain about it being a 6D especially if it's equal payout.
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*:o should i or shouldnt i...yep i will (woohoo) remember all the bitchin and complaining (not sure which board it was on..)about giving away a beautiful new dodge dually to the winner of a what..a knocked down barrel at the WBR finals..they said why should a person who knocks over a barrel be rewarded for hitting a barrel.. well guess who won the truck..a 1D rider!! a well known 1D rider with SEVERAL 1D horses!! as far as i know to date...she didnt refuse the truck and took it with a smile :TIGGER:
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My, it sounds like some of you have forgotten where you started! How would you have felt back then? Keep the 5 and the 6. That young girl running in the 6 right now with a skinny horse in training will be blowing you away in a couple of years when your horse is burnt out. That's why you should keep the 6! For yourself. Ha Ha.
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Went to Destry's 6D this past weekend, and what I noticed is the increased number of novice, 5D plus riders. One lady, was very please she ran a 20+ time, had the enthusiasm, energy most of us had when we first started.
She would not go to a 4D/5D race more than likey, but the 6D brought her out.
The increased number of us slow riders funds you 1/2/3D folks, and it benefits folks like the excited 6D rider who just wants to compete and have a great time, and it benefits you fast folks with more money, a win win in my book.
jmho
You take away the 5D and 6D in the big shows, you take away the trucks, saddles, and buckles, not to mention the money <psssttt> .......besides I bet a 1D horse/rider that slips behind a barrel and wins a spot in the 5/6D won't be complaining much about the D's when they win a check <EXCUSE ME?> . Those people fuel these races and without them the faster gals would be complaining because they aren't winning enough money.
Can't make everyone happy, but the producers sure try!!! :*
Sorry KerrieL, but if my 1D horse slips she better not be in the 5-6D is she's truly a 1D horse. Slip and pull up and maybe you'll be in the 5-6D. And a 1D person will accept the check from the other Ds, but will still complain about it being a 6D especially if it's equal payout.
SHEEEESH!! >THUD< Why does everything get taken so literally. :blah:
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kerrie...things taken so literally...so does that mean what happened in vegas stayed there and wont happen here? roflmao
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kerrie...things taken so literally...so does that mean what happened in vegas stayed there and wont happen here? roflmao
Absolutely not!!! >angel< :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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Went to Destry's 6D this past weekend, and what I noticed is the increased number of novice, 5D plus riders. One lady, was very please she ran a 20+ time, had the enthusiasm, energy most of us had when we first started.
She would not go to a 4D/5D race more than likey, but the 6D brought her out.
The increased number of us slow riders funds you 1/2/3D folks, and it benefits folks like the excited 6D rider who just wants to compete and have a great time, and it benefits you fast folks with more money, a win win in my book.
jmho
You take away the 5D and 6D in the big shows, you take away the trucks, saddles, and buckles, not to mention the money <psssttt> .......besides I bet a 1D horse/rider that slips behind a barrel and wins a spot in the 5/6D won't be complaining much about the D's when they win a check <EXCUSE ME?> . Those people fuel these races and without them the faster gals would be complaining because they aren't winning enough money.
Can't make everyone happy, but the producers sure try!!! :*
Sorry KerrieL, but if my 1D horse slips she better not be in the 5-6D is she's truly a 1D horse. Slip and pull up and maybe you'll be in the 5-6D. And a 1D person will accept the check from the other Ds, but will still complain about it being a 6D especially if it's equal payout.
SHEEEESH!! >THUD< Why does everything get taken so literally. :blah:
I didn't see any joking when it was mentioned, thus I took you seriously.
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Well, I think that the D system was a great addition to barrelracing. When it first started it was 3D full second splits, it went to the 4D with 1/2 , 1/2, 1 second splits. Now the 5D with 1/2 seconds splits and the 6D. I like the idea of the 5/6D races, but think they are better for the large shows only. Keeping in the pay out progressive for the D's. Now if you are having a small local association race with entries being around 25-40, I think sticking with the 4D payout would be great. Still no equal payout. There is an association around here that might have around 15 -20 show up and still pay 4D 1/2 split all the way. Equal payout and they will pay 4-5 places. Really splitting the money up too far. If you have that few, I think even going back to a 3D 1/2, 1/2 , 1 might even be ok. The way it is now with the small local shows you can't even afford to haul to them and get you entry back if you win 1st in the 1D.
Having the 5D and 6D has made some shows bigger and better. More money and better payouts. Also for those just starting out or coming back from a lay off, it helps build their confidence back up again by at least giving them a shot a some $$$$$. I myself have run in all D's, and you won't find me complaining about the payouts. Right now I'm starting a colt and whatever D I fall in and win money in I'm not going to complain, and neither is my banker. He's not going to tell me that he won't deposit my check because its not a 1D or 2D check. It all spends the same. Money is money. Now days all people really care about is where they place. Yes it makes you look good in the eyes of others and makes you feel good about yourself, but lets face it, with todays economy for crap, I'll take money no matter what D it comes out of. At least I can afford to pay for part of my expenses. So, yes, I vote to keep the 5D/6D payout but only at the big added money shows. If you will notice, the at most of those, even if you place dead last in the 6D, you are getting you entry fee back plus about $5-$10 extra dollars. So you broke even.
Producers, keep up the good work.
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doc o lena bar :()& :()& :()&
i'm grateful for any $$ that i receive, or any other type of award...
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Heck, no one takes me seriously!!! (woohoo) (woohoo)
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Mrs. Rodeo America or Betty Sue barrel racer... MONEY IS MONEY!!! 5D-10D-1D- WE ALL WANT TO GET A GOOD CHECK IF WE PLACE
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Yes ma'am!!!!! :)/\\ :)/\\
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
Bobby are you coming on here to start trouble again? :ROFL2:
Tamet I dont like the colors on your web pages. I am going start a poll to get them changed. <()>
Boy, Im tellin ya. I carry my poor teenage son to get his learners permit today and when I left there was only 2 pages on this thread, I come home and Bobby you are trying to sturrrrrrr things up. :ROFL2: I REFUSE to change the color on the forum <()>
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OK I am really going to start some s... now. One woman emailed me wanting to add 1/10's of seconds on everybody that weighed less than 160 pounds. Can you see me trying to weigh everybody before they ran. :crazy: :crazy:
Uh, I believe they call that handicapping in the racing world, and thats not hand clapping Bobby :ROFL2:
Oh and Katy the answer is still NO, not changing the colors!!! >:D
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I suppose in my zeal to speak for the 6D format, I didn't indicate, for the big shows. No, for the NBHA district show with Youth, SR, and Open, with 50 or so in the open, 4D is plenty, 5D is generous. However, for the Destry, BobbyB, etc, with 300 + riders, I think it brings in more folks, and helps everyone.
Yep, Tamet, this has been a busy topic today...
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tamet..u should know that by now Booger cant be left alone to play well with others.... *:o
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HEY!!!! There should also be a handicap for those of us with big ta-tas :)/\\ !!! Those things catch a lot of air if you don't stay low!!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
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Hey now, Booger Barter "liar liar pants on fire!".....NO to equal pay out.......the fastest horse wins the most money..........
Ok, lilbit D division midgets with big bosoms....and deb we will make it the itty bitty powdered donuts (and you only get 1!), as for deisel, I talked to the Iranian at the corner store and he sort of understood about the cost of fuel and barrel racing. So he said to tell all his friends charging $4.05 per gallon that barrel racers deserve .99 fuel (dang I can actually remember fuel less than 40 cents!) because it is causing dissention between the D's. But he actually thought I was referring to bra sizes, so he was offering 4/5/6 D's an even better price on fuel. I left...........I couldn't explain the 1/2 second and whole second thing.
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Those with A-cups and the guys........thats one division :ROFL2:
Those with B's another :cheeze: , Those with D's another (hi there) ........and others well, they get the Bazooonga :()& division. Good watchin' if ya ask me!!! roflmao
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HEY!!!! There should also be a handicap for those of us with big ta-tas :)/\\ !!! Those things catch a lot of air if you don't stay low!!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
Hey...maybe thats my problem...I'm not riding low enough. But durn...then I get hung up on the saddle horn.
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ok now that THAMES and KERRIE have covered the Boob divisional barrel racing D's..what about our @$$..etts.. how will we do those divisions...and dont forget..they have to correlate with our Boob divisions..... >YELL<
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
Bobby are you coming on here to start trouble again? :ROFL2:
Tamet I dont like the colors on your web pages. I am going start a poll to get them changed. <()>
Boy, Im tellin ya. I carry my poor teenage son to get his learners permit today and when I left there was only 2 pages on this thread, I come home and Bobby you are trying to sturrrrrrr things up. :ROFL2: I REFUSE to change the color on the forum <()>
I DEMAND pink poka dot colors or I am going to throw my lollipop on the ground and not play with you any more. >:D >:D
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And don't forget how those big "ta-ta's" throw you off balance! By the way, I don't don't think big bottoms should get anything extra, they help you stick better in the saddle!!!
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This is soooo much more fun than re-asking about a 6D race, don't ya think?!?!?!?!?
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My color of choice has always been pink polka dots and plaid stripes!!!!!!
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Looking at the results from Destry's...the winner won $1500 and outran 1,000 or so entries (don't really know) the last hole to make $, made the same amount running over 2.5 seconds off as the person running less than .3 off the winning time. Kinda kills the competive spirit. JMO I'm not berating anyone-congrats to all who were lucky or talented enough to make $.
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Booger...tell the truth..ur gonna stop your dang feet
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Looking at the results from Destry's...the winner won $1500 and outran 1,000 or so entries (don't really know) the last hole to make $, made the same amount running over 2.5 seconds off as the person running less than .3 off the winning time. Kinda kills the competive spirit. JMO I'm not berating anyone-congrats to all who were lucky or talented enough to make $.
Kinda does...................... :so cool:
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Booger...tell the truth..ur gonna stop your dang feet
Booger she meant "stomp"......she has powderd sugar on her finger that types the M. roflmao
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I think who ever thought of the idea for a 6D barrel race is CRAZY. I am sure that Jo Ellen Cowan hates the 6D's also. Wait a minute didn't she just win $1,000 in a 6D race.
Bobby are you coming on here to start trouble again? :ROFL2:
Tamet I dont like the colors on your web pages. I am going start a poll to get them changed. <()>
Boy, Im tellin ya. I carry my poor teenage son to get his learners permit today and when I left there was only 2 pages on this thread, I come home and Bobby you are trying to sturrrrrrr things up. :ROFL2: I REFUSE to change the color on the forum <()>
I DEMAND pink poka dot colors or I am going to throw my lollipop on the ground and not play with you any more. >:D >:D
Then I guess you and Katy will have to play together in the same kitty box since we dont want to change the colors in our kitty box!! rofl
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I dont know any thing about Thames competive spirit but these are the FACTS for the WBR Glen Rose Race. If the winner of the race enters all of the Incentives the total entry fee will be $195. The winner will receive $4,000 cash, Gist Bracelet, $3200 Game Ready System, $300 to $600 cash in the Age Incentive, $500 Entry Fees to the WBR Finals, An free entry into the Big Bucks Race where 4 people will win $5000 out of a total of 24 runners, and the winning horse will get a free double stall and 6 bags of shavings at the WBR finals.Also the winner will have a 1 in 10 chance to win a $5000 GRAND PRIZE. If that doesnt get your spirit up I think you need new medication. Lets say, in the last 90 days what jackpots have you been to where the winner could win so much with a $195 entry fees?
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>ok this is 4d queen yes i am sort of lucky but i work hard to and i do not always win my horses seam to know to take care of me i like the 4 5 6 ds yes my black horse is faster and my new yellow one i am lucky to be able to ride as much as i do so i like the slower ds but iam also glad when the tuffs show up cause then i have to ride up also it helps if Badger desides to run i pay the same as id ers for fule feed hay as faster horses but i am verry gratefull when i do good i have no majic ball i just try as hard as i can its lots more fun than my school bus
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>THUD< >THUD< >THUD< >THUD< OMG I just got to this post again......Talk about DEADHORSE !!!!! >THUD< >THUD<
Back to the D's, Um, I think i catch WAY too much air with my D's!!!! I need a division all to myself! Wait, that is what Booger did for me! We had the 10D donkee race! <GABE> <GABE> <GABE> BOOGER...I am still waiting on my award for winning that race!!!!! <psssttt> <psssttt> <psssttt> <psssttt> And yeah, this week, we fell in the 10D cause we wuz bucking the pattern.....UM, that is NOT where we wanted to be. However, if I had hit the 6D with that kind of preformance, I would have wanted to go back to try again! Keeping that in mind, think back to WBR in Conroe. Gabe hit the 4th hole in the 4D and pulled a $1260 check!!!! :o :o :o SOOOOOO, Um, you see how D's can help ya out! Shoot, his other runs were too fast for the 4D!!!! YIKES! Now, can you guys let this post die.....or stick to making fun of Booby and his lollipop! :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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4Dqueen :()& :()& u here!! oh come on now..u know u LOVE those screaming freaky snotty kids on the school bus!! hehehe
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BOOGER..age incentive?? do i have an incentive to be 83?
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Bobby must have thrown that lollipop down and stomped off!!!!!! Bobby can I add incentive entries to my entry at Glen Rose?
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he foot is stuck in the sticky lollipot and he cant move.. roflmao
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Bobby must have thrown that lollipop down and stomped off!!!!!! Bobby can I add incentive entries to my entry at Glen Rose?
I am pouting. I want pink poka dot colors. Yes you can add age incentive . Judy is out until Thursday just call her then. I guess we are going to have to put an age incentive of 80 yrs and older for Deb and a donkey incentive for Gabe the A.. I mean Gabe the Donkey. :see-ya:
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I like the d's to an extent... its great at the big barrel races but im not fond of equal payout. I dont run in the 1d every time but.... I think u should win more for being in the 1d. If i dont work my horse and exercise him every day he wont run hard and will end up in the 2d some times 3d.... Now the extra work should be rewarded... JMO and at the big ones I think the producers should decide what they like best..... I mean it is their barrel race and if you dont like it well.... like deb horses said dont go!!!
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I keep hearing the term EQUAL PAYOUT. The WBR does not have an EQUAL PAYOUT. The 1D's get paid more than anyone else.
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
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Bobby must have thrown that lollipop down and stomped off!!!!!! Bobby can I add incentive entries to my entry at Glen Rose?
I am pouting. I want pink poka dot colors. Yes you can add age incentive . Judy is out until Thursday just call her then. I guess we are going to have to put an age incentive of 80 yrs and older for Deb and a donkey incentive for Gabe the A.. I mean Gabe the Donkey. :see-ya:
The Donkee had his own race....the producer just did not payout like he said.... >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D
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I keep hearing the term EQUAL PAYOUT. The WBR does not have an EQUAL PAYOUT. The 1D's get paid more than anyone else.
EQUAL PAYOUT--let me start some mess here...[size=05pt]equal entry fees=equal payout[/size] let me clean up some mess here JUST KIDDIN!!! roflmao but now u know someone is gonna whine and email you and get down on their knees and BEG u and bribe u with hersey kisses for equal payout now rofl
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
Confusion----Booger is easily confused.
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A$$et incentives.....here we go
13" - 13 1/2" seat....Tiny tush Division :moon:
14" - 14 1/2" seat....More cushion for the pushin' Division GRAMPS
15" - 16" seat.........Bob Division boB
16" and over...........Booger Division >PICK NOSE<
Then we might have to have a separate midget, Bazoonga, tiny tush Division just for lilbit!!! roflmao
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
Be sure and to come by the office and introduce yourself to me. Be very care of 3 trouble makers at the barrel races. They are very easy to spot out at a race, Gabe will be riding a donkey,Debhorses and Thamesranch Will be the 2 old ladies in the wheelchairs ,with the lowcut tanktops, trying to pinch all of the young men on the butts. <psssttt> <psssttt>
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:TIGGER: :TIGGER: :TIGGER: I am in the good division! GRAMPS
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How about you gotta be a Double D to win a D!!!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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JUST a DD? That knocks me out
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<EXCUSE ME?> Let me gain that extra 10 pounds back and then i will be there.... <DUMMY ME> <DUMMY ME>
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JUST a DD? That knocks me out
Yea, I'm out too :blah: !!! Of course it should have said at least a Double D to win a D!!! How's that!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
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JUST a DD? That knocks me out
Yea, I'm out too :blah: !!! Of course it should have said at least a Double D to win a D!!! How's that!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
You are BAD BAD BAD. You are trying to get me in trouble again. :no: :no:
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JUST a DD? That knocks me out
Yea, I'm out too :blah: !!! Of course it should have said at least a Double D to win a D!!! How's that!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
You are BAD BAD BAD. You are trying to get me in trouble again. :no: :no:
Who?!?!?!?!? Your obviously not insinuating little oh me (hi there)
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JUST a DD? That knocks me out
Literally????? :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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>WARNING<
However it happened 2 or 3 pages ago!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
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>WARNING<
However it happened 2 or 3 pages ago!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
well, thats ok. everyone said their peace about the 6D. I was just curious to see peoples thoughts. Maybe I should have started a poll about getting rid of 2D and keeping the 6D being that is so popular now. I just have to stir the pot for Bob & Tamet every once in a while to make sure people are reading the threads. It makes me no difference.
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>WARNING<
However it happened 2 or 3 pages ago!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze:
well, thats ok. everyone said their peace about the 6D. I was just curious to see peoples thoughts. Maybe I should have started a poll about getting rid of 2D and keeping the 6D being that is so popular now. I just have to stir the pot for Bob & Tamet every once in a while to make sure people are reading the threads. It makes me no difference.
And here I though I was the only one who likes to >STIRTHEPOT< !!!
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Keep it, keeps the entries up.
KEEP IT,IT WILL KEEP THE ENTRIES UP AND IT KEEPS THOSE NEW COMERS COMING INTO THE SPORT. OH,HOW SOME OF YALL FORGET <IMSOMAD> IT'S THOSE IN THE LOWER D'S THAT KEEP ADDING MONEY COMING,DUE TOO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW NOVICE CLASSES.PEOPLE DON'T FORGET U HAVE TOO CRAWL B4 U CAN WALK.IF YOU FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD BE OUT RODEOING THE DON'T ENTER ANY OF THE 4,5,OR 6D'S. I REALLY ENJOY SEEING THE NEW FOLKS COME INTO OUR SPORT AND THEN SEE HOW MUCH THEY HAVE IMPROVED.
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Its a good thing that there is different assocations or barrel races that people can pick and choose where they want to go. If you dont like the way it is then dont enter. 3d,4d,5d,6d,7d,8d-- its pot luck if you win any money anyway!
If you have that 1-d; rodeo horse-then go to rodeos....
LIBIT,I'M WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY...........VERY WELL SAID!!
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Its a good thing that there is different assocations or barrel races that people can pick and choose where they want to go. If you dont like the way it is then dont enter. 3d,4d,5d,6d,7d,8d-- its pot luck if you win any money anyway!
If you have that 1-d; rodeo horse-then go to rodeos....
LIBIT,I'M WITH YOU EVERY STEP OF THE WAY...........VERY WELL SAID!!
TNT I SENT YOU A PM
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um...i usually crawl after i cant walk anymore.... <HIC>
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
Be sure and to come by the office and introduce yourself to me. Be very care of 3 trouble makers at the barrel races. They are very easy to spot out at a race, Gabe will be riding a donkey,Debhorses and Thamesranch Will be the 2 old ladies in the wheelchairs ,with the lowcut tanktops, trying to pinch all of the young men on the butts. <psssttt> <psssttt>
Booger, I think you may have this wrong. They will be the pretty girls and you are the dirty ole man trying to pinch all of the young girls on the butt!!!!
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CD!! wow i'm glad u pointed that out....he was up very early this am stirring up trouble...your correct...he's in the wheelchair cuz his 4th wife tried unsuccessfully to run over his arse, and yes we have low tank tops on cuz we are trying to make it to the 6DD roflmao :TIGGER:
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CD!! wow i'm glad u pointed that out....he was up very early this am stirring up trouble...your correct...he's in the wheelchair cuz his 4th wife tried unsuccessfully to run over his arse, and yes we have low tank tops on cuz we are trying to make it to the 6DD roflmao :TIGGER:
There we go!!!! Now were back on track!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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4th wife you say? hummmmmm...... I didn't know that. He can't find #5 if he's sitting around chatting with us.
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Never underestimate the Booger man.....I'm sure he's got one in his sights!!! roflmao
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
Be sure and to come by the office and introduce yourself to me. Be very care of 3 trouble makers at the barrel races. They are very easy to spot out at a race, Gabe will be riding a donkey,Debhorses and Thamesranch Will be the 2 old ladies in the wheelchairs ,with the lowcut tanktops, trying to pinch all of the young men on the butts. <psssttt> <psssttt>
Booger, I think you may have this wrong. They will be the pretty girls and you are the dirty ole man trying to pinch all of the young girls on the butt!!!!
CD...I'm glad you haven't gone to 6D. You're good just the way you are...well, you could add a few little incentives (like some additional prizes that crack babies could win) or a truck or 2, saddles, gas cards, bling..you know anything to draw us that direction.
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4th wife you say? hummmmmm...... I didn't know that. He can't find #5 if he's sitting around chatting with us.
yes 4th...but he's already on his next 5th x-wife...he has quite a list (:)
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Wait, where did someone include me in the trouble maker group????? BOOGER!!!! I aint no trouble maker!!!! <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT>
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I dont know any thing about Thames competive spirit but these are the FACTS for the WBR Glen Rose Race. If the winner of the race enters all of the Incentives the total entry fee will be $195. The winner will receive $4,000 cash, Gist Bracelet, $3200 Game Ready System, $300 to $600 cash in the Age Incentive, $500 Entry Fees to the WBR Finals, An free entry into the Big Bucks Race where 4 people will win $5000 out of a total of 24 runners, and the winning horse will get a free double stall and 6 bags of shavings at the WBR finals.Also the winner will have a 1 in 10 chance to win a $5000 GRAND PRIZE. If that doesnt get your spirit up I think you need new medication. Lets say, in the last 90 days what jackpots have you been to where the winner could win so much with a $195 entry fees?
There's a BIG difference between the race they were discussing and your race Bobby.
I can't wait for Glen Rose.
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congrats to all who were lucky
That's what most of this sport has become.
Example: Destry's race: 120 places paid....only 20 of those paid (16.67% of those receiving checks) where TOUGH enough to be in the 1D. The other 83.33% were lucky!!!!
I have nothing against the D races as it has brought a whole herd of folks to the sport, but I get frustrated when people with lower D horses complain because they aren't pulling checks. Its ALL based on luck if you aren't in the 1D. Yes, it requires skill, effort and work just to make it through the pattern @ any speed....but whether you do or do not win a check in anything besides the 1D is LUCK!!!
It is still (I think) called a barrel RACE. In any other race, the fastest wins. That is why, I have yet to understand how someone can be "too fast" for such and such D. You are NEVER too fast (unless you have no desire to improve).
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I personally don't see anything wrong with a 6D payout especially on the guaranteed payouts like the WBR. It does not make any difference how many contestants you have or don't have. The payout is printed and published before you leave the house and you know exactly what you can win. The WBR does not take away from the other divisions just because they have a 6 D payout. On the other hand when you are running at 75-80% of the entry fee plus the added money there is a very fine line when you can justify the additional division and not make the higher divisions suffer. I personally don't think you should dilute the payoff so much that the last place in each division does not get their entry fee back at least. JMHO
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Oh hush GB... roflmao
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WOW I was on a road trip today and sure missed out on a bunch!
On Hey Booger, back on page 7 or 8 you asked if I had competivie spirit...... at this point in my life
I need "a spirit" or some kind of divine intervention to keep me inspired! I actually do love a good race of any kind (except car races), and a firm believer that the fastest wins the big prize. a serious note: I think the D's should be based on the number of entries and/or added money. The guaranteed payoff races now being offered should be up to the producer.
It is a choice every barrel racer can make of where you go.
I just want to thank all of the producers who make the commitment and the effort of time and labor for giving us places to go.(I am not "sucking up", just stating that I enjoy going where I choose to go.)
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wasnt talking about wbr i like yalls setup and will be attending some this summer... i was talking about barrel racing in general.... sorry for the confusion
Be sure and to come by the office and introduce yourself to me. Be very care of 3 trouble makers at the barrel races. They are very easy to spot out at a race, Gabe will be riding a donkey,Debhorses and Thamesranch Will be the 2 old ladies in the wheelchairs ,with the lowcut tanktops, trying to pinch all of the young men on the butts. <psssttt> <psssttt>
ok i will do that.... I will definatly be at Guthrie but Im gonna try to make the next one at Glen Rose. I look forward to meetin ya! ;)
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The "D"'s (all mentioned here...doubles and singles) >HAPPYDANCE< >HAPPYDANCE<draw more peeps to the sport. The only think that makes no sense to me is an "EQUAL" payout. There is nothing equal about a 1d horse/rider and any other d. The 1d horse probably gets fed better, worked more, cost more...all the way around.
...carry on...carry on... :yawn:
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The "D"'s (all mentioned here...doubles and singles) >HAPPYDANCE< >HAPPYDANCE<draw more peeps to the sport. The only think that makes no sense to me is an "EQUAL" payout. There is nothing equal about a 1d horse/rider and any other d. The 1d horse probably gets fed better, worked more, cost more...all the way around.
...carry on...carry on... :yawn:
I don't think its 'just' the 1D horses gets the best of everything. I think most of us try to do whats best for their horses.
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I didnt really mean that....just that i think the 1d people should get the most after all they are the winners, the rest just gets lucky...it is a race...and i have been in the 1d, and i have been way out of it...I wouldnt go to a race knowing only the fastest 10 horses get money, i just think they deserve the bulk of it. More times than not, the horses runnin those fastest times, have cost more, and are upkept more, stuff like that.....
I surely didnt meant to offend or say that non 1d people dont take care of their horses.
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THAMES!!! u r so sucking up and you know it!! u just dont want THE picture to be posted.. :cheeze:
but..your idea up there about the amount of D's based on entries..i attended one of those this past weekend..Wrapn3 did that on the first one i attended as well as this last one..the first one was if there were 150 entries it went to a 5D...the same as last weekend but i think last weekend it was 125 entries..dont quote me... either way it worked out for me both weekends!! :TIGGER:
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HEY!!!!! This thread was >WARNING< once already!!! You can't hijack it back!! roflmao
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Hmmmmmmm......now where were we ???
OH YEA!!! The midgets/bazoongas/little arses DD's :cheeze:
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Now that's just plain SCARY!!!!!!! REAL SCARED REAL SCARED REAL SCARED
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Kerie, I really like the midget bottoms idea! Especially the names.
GB - we already have a blond division - that is why there are 6D races!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <psssttt> <psssttt> >:D >:D
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Dang Katy!!! That was just funny!!! rofl rofl rofl
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<(::)> <(::)> <(::)> That was just wrong <(::)> <(::)> <(::)>...
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I guess it isn't right to pick on a gal when she doesn't feel well. Wait, yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) 8) 8)
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I think the Producers should all have a list of the 1 and 2 D riders that have complained about the 5 & 6 D's and if they mess up and get a check at the big races they have to donate it to a 4,5, or 6D barrel racer that was 1 out of the money. :ROFL2:
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congrats to all who were lucky
That's what most of this sport has become.
Example: Destry's race: 120 places paid....only 20 of those paid (16.67% of those receiving checks) where TOUGH enough to be in the 1D. The other 83.33% were lucky!!!!
I have nothing against the D races as it has brought a whole herd of folks to the sport, but I get frustrated when people with lower D horses complain because they aren't pulling checks. Its ALL based on luck if you aren't in the 1D. Yes, it requires skill, effort and work just to make it through the pattern @ any speed....but whether you do or do not win a check in anything besides the 1D is LUCK!!!
It is still (I think) called a barrel RACE. In any other race, the fastest wins. That is why, I have yet to understand how someone can be "too fast" for such and such D. You are NEVER too fast (unless you have no desire to improve).
I totally agree with Mandi! It's just a crapshoot if you're not in the 1D. I've been in the 1D and I've been lucky enough to win money in the 2,3, and 4d too, so I love the D races. However, I think that we've definitely went far enough with having a 6D. I'd rather see it dropped but that's probably not going to happen. That's okay, though. I'll still go when I have the money to gamble. I'd much rather gamble on barrel racing than on anything else! If I happen to get lucky enough to win 6d money, I'll dang sure take it. <ROCKON>
As far as equal payout goes, I don't like it. I understand that everyone pays the same for diesel, entry fees, etc. I just believe that the ones that outrun EVERYBODY else should get the most money. Of course that is jmho. >PEACE<
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I just thought of this..
Those big girls (pro)(Most) (1d) don't need more money... THEY GOT SPONSORS!! <()> <()> <()> <()> I'm sure they don't endorse something for nothing!
LOL!!!
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If you have a blonde race then where is the brunette one??
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HAHAHAHA
Just stirring the pot!
Dont zap me Tamet or Bob- or the donkey girl!
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What about a blonde highlight with those lovely dark roots shining through barrel race? :ROFL2:
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<()> <()> I am about ready to zap the entire post!!!! <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT> UTM, you did a good job of waking everyone up!!! <()> <()> <()>
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who is UTM??
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Up The Middle????
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What about a blonde highlight with those lovely dark roots shining through barrel race? :ROFL2:
That's the Redneck D!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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What about a blonde highlight with those lovely dark roots shining through barrel race? :ROFL2:
That's the Redneck D!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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O no then cat fights would be happening...
<KICK YO BUTT> :ROFL2: rofl
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D race for brunettes with highlites, that are at least 53 years of age and name has to start with a D and last name has to have golden arches, that have two sorrel horses with blaze faces roflmao oh and be labled a couger cuz of Quest and torment old geesers named >PICK NOSE< :TIGGER: roflmao now i think that bout narrows it down
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that is good deb- How long did that take you to type??LOL 0:)
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O no then cat fights would be happening...
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I can see it now!! rofl
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That would be a sight to see.. Better then Ultimate Fighting!!
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OMG guys, you are cracking me up!!!! rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl
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Gabe - you know you would be out there! You would be thinking that might the person that greased my stuff! <KICK YO BUTT> <KICK YO BUTT>
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We should produce our own barrel race!!!!!!! Could you imagine!!! There would be throw-downs every time you turned around :star wars:!! OH HECK!!! We could add a mud ring for those who need to let it out !! <^^>
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:ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: I think i need to just have a good old fashioned greased pig contest...that will get some frustration out!!!! :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2: :ROFL2:
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You mean Bobby would cover himself in grease?? :ROFL2: rofl
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Forget the cash cube and spinin' that ol' wheel, and $5,000.00 drawings!!!! <psssttt> <psssttt> <psssttt>
We got mud wrestling, midget bazoonga D's, DD D's, heck even DDD D's, and greased Booger contest!!!!! <ROCKON> <ROCKON>
What more do we need!!! :((((
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<COLOR GRIN> Sign me up!!! <COLOR GRIN>
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roflmao roflmao roflmao roflmao Sign me up too!!!! >PEACE<
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HUMMM let me think what we need??
We got to find "backflip" johnny something to do??
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roflmao roflmao roflmao Well, he has to be the announcer and the ref.... >angel< >angel<
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If ya'll think we complain now.....MAN O MAN!!!!! (woohoo) (woohoo)
If you complain, in the mud pit you go........in a bikini >RULZ< >RULZ< no matter your size!!! Or get greased up with Booger!!! *:o
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Johnny can be the one to make sure every one's bra size is correct!!! :cheeze: :cheeze: :cheeze: ME FIRST!!! *:o
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You go girl! :ROFL2:
I will have to go find the ones Bobby gave me to put back on! :ROFL2:
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Lilbit ~ we will need you to make sure Johnny's hands stay warm. >:D >:D
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omglmao!!
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Greased boogers, yew!!!!
You guys can go down hill faster than the above mentioned greased boogers!!!!!!! :()& Be careful, there are probably a lot more takers than you could imagine!
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well if there is that many people that want to get in the ring with Booger then we can start charging them...
He is always ready to make another $ . :ROFL2:
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You gals are wound up this morning! Its time for a barrel race to get rid of all these frustrations you are having! LOL!
As for the person that mentioned taking down the names of the 1 & 2D riders and keeping their checks ....I'm not one of them, just so you'll know. Since I started this thread, I'm not disgruntled because the 6D riders are taking up pay out slots, I really was just curious to see if others wanted to keep the 6D. Obviously most people do.
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its getting close to Friday!
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You gals are wound up this morning! Its time for a barrel race to get rid of all these frustrations you are having! LOL!
As for the person that mentioned taking down the names of the 1 & 2D riders and keeping their checks ....I'm not one of them, just so you'll know. Since I started this thread, I'm not disgruntled because the 6D riders are taking up pay out slots, I really was just curious to see if others wanted to keep the 6D. Obviously most people do.
Really! How did a simple 'yes' or 'no' poll get turned into such a ???? I don't even know what to call it. But it is not a poll thread anymore. It kind of got waaay off the path.
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sorry we took the dirty road... O I mean dirt road! :ROFL2:
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Just tryin' to lighten things up :blah:.........not so serious <()> .....besides I live on the dirty road!!! >:D
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You mean Bobby would cover himself in grease?? :ROFL2: rofl
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oh ya like that would be a first.... :blah:
and lilbit i type faster than the speed of a 1D rider... roflmao
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We'd have to charge admission for sure to cover the cost of that much grease!!!! roflmao
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We'd have to charge admission for sure to cover the cost of that much grease!!!! roflmao
BEEP that is funny!
DEB's new name- speed fingers.... I guess those Cougars need all the help they can get!
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this cougar needs NO help......... note to self...tie Johnny to concrete blocks so he cant get away roflmao
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THEIF!!!...ROBBER!!! go sit in the corner lilbit....oh wait..u just wanna be a couger like me!! :TIGGER:
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I think I've read almost all of this post and I really don't care one way or another about if it's a 6D or not. I'm just as likely to end up in the 4D as th 6D depending on which driver error I make that day.
I'm really liking the idea of a blond redneck with roots mudwresting greased booger contest, but in all of this discussion, you guys have failed to mention 1 crucial ingredient to the perfect barrel race BEER
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no beer, just crown...ok!! nows heres another poll... roflmao
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I think I've read almost all of this post and I really don't care one way or another about if it's a 6D or not. I'm just as likely to end up in the 4D as th 6D depending on which driver error I make that day.
I'm really liking the idea of a blond redneck with roots mudwresting greased booger contest, but in all of this discussion, you guys have failed to mention 1 crucial ingredient to the perfect barrel race BEER
Come now......beer & alcohol.....thats a given!!! <ROCKON>
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I've won money in all divisions except the 5 and 6D, though primarily in the 1 and 2D. It doesn't mean I'm against the others. I just feel they have their place and it isn't in ALL races.
Its amazing how posts with valid points get ignored (or accused of beating a dead horse) and the hijacking ones just keep going on and on....
People say the 1D people should appreciate the lower D riders because without them, they wouldn't make enough money...the lower D riders should appreciate the 1D winners - without them, the pace would be set slower and those people wouldn't be getting checks either. LOL!!!!!
Percentages show that there are still more people in the 3 and 4D than the 5&6D so I don't know that adding them has really impacted the sport that much.
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I've won money in all divisions except the 5 and 6D, though primarily in the 1 and 2D. It doesn't mean I'm against the others. I just feel they have their place and it isn't in ALL races.
Its amazing how posts with valid points get ignored (or accused of beating a dead horse) and the hijacking ones just keep going on and on....
People say the 1D people should appreciate the lower D riders because without them, they wouldn't make enough money...the lower D riders should appreciate the 1D winners - without them, the pace would be set slower and those people wouldn't be getting checks either. LOL!!!!!
Percentages show that there are still more people in the 3 and 4D than the 5&6D so I don't know that adding them has really impacted the sport that much.
At some barrel races the 5d is the 4d (2 seconds off the fatest time)??? So how can you say that you have not placed in the 5d??? Little confused????
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Lets just get rid of 2D and see what happens....LOL!
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Its amazing how posts with valid points get ignored (or accused of beating a dead horse) and the hijacking ones just keep going on and on....
People say the 1D people should appreciate the lower D riders because without them, they wouldn't make enough money...the lower D riders should appreciate the 1D winners - without them, the pace would be set slower and those people wouldn't be getting checks either. LOL!!!!!
That's exactly what I've been thinking as I've been reading these posts.....you forgot the other response to a valid point - "If you don't like it, don't go."
If I don't like something about the race, payout or entree fee, I DON'T go! ;) Though, I think it is nice to be able to read feedback from others on this board, instead of going to races and wondering why the turnout is either low....or high....and not really knowing why.