I had the same problem. I tried everything. I had to find a new saddle. I discovered my horses shoulders were set back further, so I needed a saddle that girted back further. Try a crown c or a lynn mckenzie special. Im sure there are a few more adjustable riggings, but these are great saddles. The WON pad is awesome too. It keeps a saddle from rolling and slipping. Good luck I dont know where you live, but if you are near ft worth you can try mine!