Um, yeah, the rump is another option, but, It will line you up for a swift kick!!! Gabe will get you for sure if you come near his but with anything!!! Even a Thermometer!!! Shoot, i dont think i have had luck with any of my ponies on the rump....But, if you do 15cc on one side of the neck and 15 on the other, then rotate around, they do pretty good...