Oh no guys I was not stirring the pot or anything like that I just was curious why not much is ever said about the set up at the WBR's. When I enter a large barrel race, I go to barrel race, be with my friends, have fun and if I am fortunate enough to win money that is a plus. I understand that everyone has their concerns and trust me I would never bash the WBR, I enter them myself for the reasons I stated above. GBA- I do understand what you mean about needing more help and we appreciated everybody that jumped right in to help last year. And I agree with ez - Shelley did an excellent job last year considering the little time she had to organize it, so this year can only be better.....I just was stating that she would never set the pen up to take all night long or have an alley way that would get anyone hurt. She is our state director but first she was one of us!!!! I hope I did not offend anyone with my question about the WBR that was not my intentions nor was it my intention to make anyone feel like I was directing the question at them. :cheeze: Well ya'll know that old saying curiosity kill the cat, I better go pet the kitty before it goes byebye!!!! Hope to see all of ya'll at state, it is gonna be AWESOME!